Alex Smith vs. Carson Palmer: Who Will Have a Bigger Impact on Their New Team?

On December 31, 2011, things were looking up for both Alex Smith and Carson Palmer.

Smith’s 49ers were 12-3 and one game away from clinching a first round bye in the 2012 NFL Playoffs, and all they had to do was beat the lowly St. Louis Rams. The Oakland Raiders were 8-7 and were a win and a Denver Bronco loss away from winning the AFC West, and the struggling Broncos had to beat the suddenly red-hot Kansas City Chiefs.

Denver lost to Kansas City, so the Raiders just had to beat the mediocre San Diego Chargers at home to clinch their first playoff berth since 2002. The 49ers beat the Rams thanks to a nice performance from Smith, who completed 20 of 30 passes for 213 yards and a touchdown (Smith also ran for a touchdown). Palmer threw for 417 yards and two touchdowns, and the Raiders scored 26 points, while the Chargers put up 38 points.

Even after coming short, the Raiders felt like they could win the AFC West in 2012. Palmer threw 16 interceptions in 10 games with the Raiders, but he also averaged a remarkable 8.4 yards per pass attempt. If Palmer cut down on the interceptions and the other teams in the AFC West struggled, the Raiders could easily capture the AFC West crown.

Then, Peyton Manning signed with the Broncos. Palmer threw 14 interceptions in 15 games in 2012, averaging 7.1 yards per attempt. Oakland limped through a disastrous 4-12 campaign before dealing Palmer to the Cardinals and bringing in Matt Flynn, who threw for six touchdowns in Week 17 of the 2011 season, from Seattle.

Smith had much better times than Palmer, as he threw for three touchdowns and ran for one in San Francisco’s thrilling 36-32 Divisional Round triumph over the New Orleans Saints. In the 2012 NFL Playoffs, Smith scored six touchdowns with no interceptions or lost fumbles. His completion percentage (70.2 percent) led the league in 2012, and his 104.1 passer rating ranked third among players with at least 215 passing attempts.

However, Smith suffered a concussion in Week 10, and Colin Kaepernick took over. To make a long story short, Kaepernick never looked back. Smith didn’t start another game (despite being cleared to return by Week 12) and was traded to the Kansas City Chiefs in late February.

Now, the two former Bay Area quarterbacks will look to make their former franchises pay for trading them with chances to start and take struggling franchises back to the top of the NFL hierarchy.

Mar 13, 2013; Kansas City, MO, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith speaks to media during the press conference at The University of Kansas Hospital Training Complex. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

Even though the Chiefs suffered a miserable 2-14 record in 2012, Smith is in a much better situation than Palmer. The Chiefs had six Pro Bowlers, more than 23 other teams. Jamaal Charles recovered from a brutal ACL tear in Week 2 of the 2011 season to average a solid 5.3 yards per carry (YPC), and he should be even better with a legitimate top 15 (and arguably higher)quarterback sharing the backfield with him.

Dwayne Bowe was locked up to a five-year, $95 million deal earlier this offseason, so Smith will have a top target to develop chemistry with and throw the ball to. Despite having terrible quarterback play all year, Bowe was targeted 114 times and caught 59 passes for 801 yards (for a stellar average of 13.6 yards per catch). In 2010, Bowe caught 15 touchdowns and averaged a remarkable 16.1 yards per catch, so he can take over and tear up any secondary.

Kansas City has a decent offensive line as well, and they are likely to take mature, NFL-ready left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. The 49ers have a good offensive line, one of the league’s best running backs in Frank Gore and solid receiving weapons and Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis. So, on offense, both teams are similar; both have talent on offense.

Smith was effective in San Francisco because he had help. Luckily for him, he has help in Kansas City.

Palmer has some help as well, as Larry Fitzgerald is arguably the most talented wide receiver in the league. Because Kevin Kolb, Ryan Lindley, John Skelton and Brian Hoyer were the Cardinal quarterbacks in 2012, Fitzgerald’s stats weren’t incredible. However, he still caught 71 passes for 798 yards and four touchdowns, which isn’t bad by any means.

With Palmer, Fitzgerald’s numbers can definitely escalate. Palmer averaged 8.4 yards per attempt in 2011, and while he was a lot worse in 2012, Palmer and Fitzgerald can develop a strong bond and help win games for the Cardinals. Arizona signed Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, and if Mendenhall can revert to his pre-injury ways, Palmer could have a solid rushing attack to work with as well.

Apr. 2, 2013; Tempe, AZ, USA; Arizona Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer during a press conference to announce his signing with the team at the Cardinals practice facility. Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

Even though Palmer threw for more than 295 yards in eight of his 14 full games, he is turnover-prone and inconsistent. You could argue that a fresh start would be good for him, but his switch from Cincinnati to Oakland wasn’t too smooth either. The fact remains that Palmer went 4-12 in his last 16 games with the Raiders (not including Oakland’s Week 17 game in which Palmer did not play), and the fact remains that as a Raider, Palmer’s record was 8-17.

So, without tons of help in Arizona (the Cardinals also had the league’s worst rushing attack in 2012), it’s fair to assume that Palmer won’t be great.

The NFC West is probably the toughest division in the NFL, and having four games (total) against the mighty San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks will not be fun for Arizona. Smith will have to deal with Manning and the hungry Broncos twice every year, but there aren’t many strong Wild Card teams in the AFC. If the Chiefs come together and Smith develops good chemistry with his teammates, Kansas City can definitely make the playoffs for the first time since 2010.

And Arizona? Unless Palmer consistently protects the ball and performs like a big-play quarterback (which didn’t happen often in Oakland), they will have a much tougher time.

Both the 49ers and Raiders are fine getting rid of Smith and Palmer. Smith is definitely the better quarterback, and while he is more conservative, he still managed to score points, as San Francisco averaged 23.7 points per game (PPG) in games where Smith started. In games where Palmer started, the Raiders averaged a paltry 16.6 PPG.

However, the 49ers found a more explosive option in Kaepernick, and the Raiders took in Flynn, who they are hoping can be that player. Arizona is getting a guy that cannot be worse than Arizona’s 2012 quarterbacks but isn’t a game-changer, and it’s possible they draft a quarterback to push Palmer. Kansas City, on the other hand, is getting a guy who can take them to the playoffs and a guy that is a great fit for their offense.

So, unless the injury bug hits Smith or he starts to struggle mightily, Kansas City is getting the better player and the better fit.

Topics: Alex Smith, Arizona Cardinals, Carson Palmer, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers

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  • loverpoint

    It would have been nice if you had mentioned that in 2011 Matt Flynn was playing for Green Bay and he threw 6 TD’s in that one game against a lousy team in a game that had no significance.

    This all could have been summed up by saying: Smith will lead his team to more wins, while Palmer will have more passing yards. The only way Smith and K.C. make the playoffs is if Peyton Manning is injured. Arizona is going nowhere and will end up in last place in the NFC West.

    • Pridenpoise

      Agree

    • Baily Deeter

      Fair point. Flynn isn’t going to change the Raiders, although he is better than Palmer. Palmer is the big-play threat, but Smith is more efficient and the better QB.

  • drtold

    KC might have gotten Smith, but they don’t have a great right tackle. This may not end well for Smith. If the Chiefs draft a left tackle #1, they will probably be in the market for a right-handed QB next year. No way to fix that problem at right tackle this year. I think the Chiefs will be lucky (but unlucky cause it will cause them to fall out of the top ten in next years draft) to go 8-8.

    • Baily Deeter

      Smith is a right-handed QB, and the Chiefs could do some shifting. They’re fine, and they could shift Albert to RT. The line has talent and they will be fine.